tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-524039117682127217.post1328819685840594079..comments2023-04-18T00:44:59.351+10:00Comments on A dead man fell from the sky...: Pericles on how allies work togetherGary Corbyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14759372069119740227noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-524039117682127217.post-38232216539602233572010-08-01T10:10:29.123+10:002010-08-01T10:10:29.123+10:00That's a great reason Elizabeth!
And I confes...That's a great reason Elizabeth!<br /><br />And I confess I'm certain Sherlock Holmes was a real person for pretty much the same reason.Gary Corbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14759372069119740227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-524039117682127217.post-12184333175891804152010-08-01T10:09:27.259+10:002010-08-01T10:09:27.259+10:00I don't know, Jane. I guess it's possible...I don't know, Jane. I guess it's possible, but I think they would have behaved the same regardless.Gary Corbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14759372069119740227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-524039117682127217.post-43688692074992772222010-07-30T14:54:39.659+10:002010-07-30T14:54:39.659+10:00I think the speeches in Thucydides are authentic. ...I think the speeches in Thucydides are authentic. Just because it's so much cooler that way.<br /><br />(I'm sure a professional historian would find my reasoning quite compelling.)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01331620706524143366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-524039117682127217.post-31734251314868857782010-07-29T02:15:26.522+10:002010-07-29T02:15:26.522+10:00Wow, that's chillingly accurate, isn't it?...Wow, that's chillingly accurate, isn't it? I wonder if Roman dictators like Sulla or Julius Caesar (or any other Caesar!) used a text like this to justify abandoning any serious pretence of democracy in favour of one-man rule?Jane Finnishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08449686136027322303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-524039117682127217.post-50978563636796177912010-07-28T09:18:47.700+10:002010-07-28T09:18:47.700+10:00SM, it was written in Attic Greek, which is the ol...SM, it was written in Attic Greek, which is the older direct ancestor of koine, and every bit as lacking in punctuation. <br /><br />The modern theory is that Thucydides made up a lot of his reported speeches. The argument goes that no one could have recalled such detail. I think it's quite possible. This is actually worth its own post!Gary Corbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14759372069119740227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-524039117682127217.post-87206366951061082302010-07-28T09:10:43.390+10:002010-07-28T09:10:43.390+10:00Hi LT,
Yes, that's what amazed me too. If s...Hi LT, <br /><br />Yes, that's what amazed me too. If someone had stolen Pericles' words and used them in reference to NATO or the UN, no one would have noticed anything out of place at all.<br /><br />We're still working on the book tour. More news as it comes to hand.Gary Corbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14759372069119740227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-524039117682127217.post-5823856109932251762010-07-28T05:42:41.811+10:002010-07-28T05:42:41.811+10:00It never ceases to amaze me how much the Ancients ...It never ceases to amaze me how much the Ancients figured out that we still haven't appeared to have learned to this day. <br /><br />Or how often and how much humans must re-learn things over time. For a species so interested in its past, we sure do have short memories.<br /><br />I've been away for a time-- any updates on your book tour?L. T. Hosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12448176940211118898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-524039117682127217.post-83193271492126462912010-07-28T01:49:21.596+10:002010-07-28T01:49:21.596+10:00Are the learned reading the same text? Pericles se...Are the learned reading the same text? Pericles seems to be dead on about this. <br /><br />If the Greek this was translated from is at all similar to Koine Greek then the poor translator had a rough job (Koine has no punctuation at all, lots of run ons ensue).Steph Schmidthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00975939582442193113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-524039117682127217.post-76558154540161841662010-07-27T20:30:24.092+10:002010-07-27T20:30:24.092+10:00Jolly unwieldy first sentence, though...
Yeah, te...<i>Jolly unwieldy first sentence, though...</i><br /><br />Yeah, tell me about it. And I started a third of the way in. <br /><br />Thucydides is famous for having one the densest writing styles ever. Once you get into the rhythm it works very well, but it makes him difficult to quote. <br /><br />This comes from the Penguin edition, which is by far the most readable I've ever come across.Gary Corbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14759372069119740227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-524039117682127217.post-61625648441848087082010-07-27T20:06:35.223+10:002010-07-27T20:06:35.223+10:00I'm intrigued, Stephanie, did you ever find a ...I'm intrigued, Stephanie, did you ever find a way to avoid WW2?Gary Corbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14759372069119740227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-524039117682127217.post-5982405397111190982010-07-27T19:53:52.662+10:002010-07-27T19:53:52.662+10:00Anyone who has shared a flat or a workshop with a ...Anyone who has shared a flat or a workshop with a bunch of people will know Pericles was right.<br /><br />(Jolly unwieldy first sentence, though.)Lexihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14404818053292364819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-524039117682127217.post-49266736590375172312010-07-27T14:03:53.324+10:002010-07-27T14:03:53.324+10:00I often have my students do simulations on the Uni...I often have my students do simulations on the United Nations or rewrite the Treaty of Versailles for World War I (we do our best to avert World War II in the process). It's always interesting to see how much time is spent on individual country concerns and how long it takes to accomplish even the most trivial actions.Stephanie Thorntonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17437077559099315853noreply@blogger.com